A Very Slow News Day at ViagraVille
Times must be tough for those nominal “Episcopalian” fundamentalists who think they are the Guardians of The Faith Once Delivered to the Saints. Despite all the hissy-fits they have offered since 2003, our church has moved forward in ordination of gay/lesbian persons to all orders of ministry and in same-sex blessings.
Apparently, it makes some of them hysterical.
Having lost on virtually every theological and ecclesial front in the Episcopal Church and the Anglican Communion for the past seven years, it seems the flappy jaws at ViagraVille were almost out of grist for their hysteria-mill. But wait! Not quite! In the desperate search for something about which they could again become hysterical in their effort to whip up the faithful, today they discovered my April 12 post about Bishop Christopher Ssenyonjo’s visit to the U.S.
Is that all they have left in their arsenal? A 6-week-old post of mine? LOL! Dear friends, it is clear we have won, if the StandFlabby crowd is digging six weeks back for something to fight about.
Six weeks after the fact, they have decided that I should not have called Ugandan Christopher Ssenyonjo a bishop. And why? Because the homophobic, schismatic Archbishop of Uganda “defrocked” Bishop Ssenyonjo a while back.
Of course, you don’t need to think very hard or dig very deep to remember that these same Viagrans insist on calling Duncan, Schofield, and Iker bishops … even though those clerics have been rightfully deposed.
Duncan, Iker, and Schofield were deposed because they are thieves.
Ugandan bishop Ssenyonjo was deposed because he didn’t hate queers enough to suit the Archbishop of Uganda.
I’ll let you decide which is the worse offense.
For the Viagrans, apparently, deposition only counts if it’s done by a homophobic African archbishop, and deposition doesn’t “take” if it’s done within The Episcopal Church.
It’s rather amusing to watch the Viagrans try to create a reality of their own making.
Unlike those folks who are dreaming up an alternate reality at ViagraVille, I continue to recognize the schismatic ex-Episcopalians [Duncan, Schofield, and Iker] as bishops … while I also recognize they are scoundrels and thieves. Apparently, StandFlabby isn’t bothered by any such need for consistency. To them, the thieving Episcopal bishops are still bishops, but the “deposed” Ugandan bishop is less than a cleric, and perhaps (from the tone of their remarks) even less than a man.
I seldom read the ViagraVille site, but a friend alerted me to their latest effort to create a tempest in a teapot. And now I see that Father Jake has offered his reflections. As usual, he is more temperate and more wise than I.
Of course, when did we ever expect sense or consistency of the Viagrans? Never in my memory.
Dear friends, when I am so desperate that I need to find a six-week old post from our worthy opponents in order to whoop up a fight, kindly shoot me and put me out of my misery, OK?
The StandFirm crowd has lost. Surely they know in their hearts they have lost. And all they have left is a desperate need to spawn hatred among their sycophants.
Apparently, it makes some of them hysterical.
Having lost on virtually every theological and ecclesial front in the Episcopal Church and the Anglican Communion for the past seven years, it seems the flappy jaws at ViagraVille were almost out of grist for their hysteria-mill. But wait! Not quite! In the desperate search for something about which they could again become hysterical in their effort to whip up the faithful, today they discovered my April 12 post about Bishop Christopher Ssenyonjo’s visit to the U.S.
Is that all they have left in their arsenal? A 6-week-old post of mine? LOL! Dear friends, it is clear we have won, if the StandFlabby crowd is digging six weeks back for something to fight about.
Six weeks after the fact, they have decided that I should not have called Ugandan Christopher Ssenyonjo a bishop. And why? Because the homophobic, schismatic Archbishop of Uganda “defrocked” Bishop Ssenyonjo a while back.
Of course, you don’t need to think very hard or dig very deep to remember that these same Viagrans insist on calling Duncan, Schofield, and Iker bishops … even though those clerics have been rightfully deposed.
Duncan, Iker, and Schofield were deposed because they are thieves.
Ugandan bishop Ssenyonjo was deposed because he didn’t hate queers enough to suit the Archbishop of Uganda.
I’ll let you decide which is the worse offense.
For the Viagrans, apparently, deposition only counts if it’s done by a homophobic African archbishop, and deposition doesn’t “take” if it’s done within The Episcopal Church.
It’s rather amusing to watch the Viagrans try to create a reality of their own making.
Unlike those folks who are dreaming up an alternate reality at ViagraVille, I continue to recognize the schismatic ex-Episcopalians [Duncan, Schofield, and Iker] as bishops … while I also recognize they are scoundrels and thieves. Apparently, StandFlabby isn’t bothered by any such need for consistency. To them, the thieving Episcopal bishops are still bishops, but the “deposed” Ugandan bishop is less than a cleric, and perhaps (from the tone of their remarks) even less than a man.
I seldom read the ViagraVille site, but a friend alerted me to their latest effort to create a tempest in a teapot. And now I see that Father Jake has offered his reflections. As usual, he is more temperate and more wise than I.
Of course, when did we ever expect sense or consistency of the Viagrans? Never in my memory.
Dear friends, when I am so desperate that I need to find a six-week old post from our worthy opponents in order to whoop up a fight, kindly shoot me and put me out of my misery, OK?
The StandFirm crowd has lost. Surely they know in their hearts they have lost. And all they have left is a desperate need to spawn hatred among their sycophants.
posted by Lisa Fox at 5/24/2010 10:35:00 PM
16 Comments:
Unbelievable- I know you are ever fascinating to them -- but 6 weeks old. yikes
I thought they had left? Why are they still obsessing with inclusive Anglicans when they have moved to the Purer Church?
I would be flattered they find you so fascinating, to drag up a month and a half old post.
IT- a good question - a bit like stalkers
A good question deserves an answer. The team that produces Standfirm - I think there are four - includes One who has left TEC, one who is resolutely staying in TEC, one I don't know about and one who is part of a different Anglican Communion province.
So when they write about TEC they are writing about a church part of their team goes to. Similarly for ACNA.
John Sandeman
Now, if you are confident that progressives have won, I wonder if you might consider the principle of "magnaminity in victory"? Perhaps it is worth a thought.
Who's talking winners and losers?
John the illusionist has set foot amongst us (again)...better stay clear of Saudi Arabia you know what they do to socerers over there! Abracadabra and Little Stone Witches...yikes and all running around like chickens with their heads cut off! Scary!
Yes, Ann & KirkE, I do find it intriguing that they are so fascinated with me and my tiny blog.
Their searching for a 6-week-old blogpost suggests they are reaching a psychotic level of desperation.
Nope, IT, the 4 Viagrans haven't all left. Matt Kennedy did. But Sarah Hey adamantly has not; she's still defending her Little Stone Bridge. I don't know for sure about Greg; I gather he's still nominally in TEC.
But, yes, they certainly do think they're part of some Purer Church ... regardless of where they names rest on a parish register.
John, I have no power in TEC. I'm not a GC Deputy nor member of Executive Council nor a staff member. So I have no decision-making power.
But here's when I might -- as you suggested -- "consider the principle of 'magnaminity in victory.'" I would consider it when they apologize for that odious Choose This Day video and withdraw it from circulation. I would consider it when their leaders quit saying we Episcopalians are not Christian. I would consider it when they drop the derisive "General Convention Organization" term for "The Episcopal Church."
Mind you, I'm not asking that they compromise their core beliefs and values. I'm not asking that they fall in line with the beliefs and values of the vast majority of Episcopalians. I just want them to quit waging their hate-mongering jihad against the Episcopal Church.
John, one doesn't hold out an olive branch while the other side is still shooting at you. To do so would be suicide. Maybe Jesus would do that. But me, personally, I am not prepared to do so.
A lot of things make them hysterical - women who do stuff outside the home, gays who breathe and go on living, liberals, Democrats, a representative government in church and/or state, combustion engines, the Dutch, Mallomars, frozen food, the outcome of the Crimean War, crop rotation, the Enlightenment, those damn kids on the lawn - AGAIN - but, mostly, that God won't do what they tell Him to.
Forget them.
LOL, Mark. This is a great round-up of the things that make the Viagrans hysterical. Thanks!
Yeah ... I mostly ignore them. But I just couldn't resist scorning them for digging back 6 weeks into my blog for something about which to be "newly" hysterical.
Ooh, Lisa, WOT YOU SAID at 5/25/2010 9:25 PM!!! FTW!
So its their rhetoric you object to?
(just making sure I understand what you are saying)
John Sandeman
Yes, John, that's the major part of it.
I would say I "object to their rhetoric" in the same way I would "object to the rhetoric" of someone standing surrounded by a mob, pointing at me and saying, "He's evil! Get 'im, gang!" which is basically what they're doing.
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