Thursday, June 12, 2008

Guidance from the Right

"God Just Wants You to Have a Rotten Life"

As I listen to people from across the aisle urging us to just "give it up to Jesus" and remain celibate for our entire lives, I often get very cross with them. And I recall the fine essay I posted here. I am truly mystified that those folks don't understand that gay/lesbian attraction and covenants are exactly the same as their heterosexual ones.

This week, one of the Deputies on the HoBD posted that gay/lesbian Christians face no more hurdle than he does because of his "orientation" to be a fan of the Chicago Cubs. It's been a long time since I've read anything as stupid and clueless on the HoBD.

So this one's for Dan and the clueless ones like him, in honor of his deep pastoral sensitivity. I can easily imagine him in the role of this priest.

I have to post this silly thing. Otherwise, I'll be flinging invectives or real objects.

[Addendum 6/14/08: Our friend Jeffri asks that I add a "splort alert" to this video. Put down your beverages and protect your keyboard before you click on this link.]

P.S. The Word is not in them. They never knew Him.


Blogger FranIAm said...

Oh Lisa.

What can I say? It is maddening - and as a Catholic, more so. At least you all are talking about it in some way.

I was thinking of you and so many other amazing LGBT bloggers who are people of great faith. I am graced to walk with you all.

As it happens, I randomly picked an old podcast to listen to as I walked and it was this one.

It did not make me angry as I feared it might - in fact, after hearing Viginia Ramey Mollencott, I was so deeply moved.

If you have not heard this, I so highly recommend it as an hour well spent. Richard Mouw is not as obnoxious as so many others - and as I said, Mollencott was great.

Peace and healing to all. I look back to St. Augustine who tied up all this sex crap into what should be a very incarnational expression of faith.

Does no one read John? It is about the FLESH. And in the flesh there is covenant, mercy, faithfulness and love.

Not depraivity.

Sorry for the rant.

6/13/2008 6:33 AM  
Blogger Elizabeth Kaeton said...

I love THIS Rowan. Brilliant.

6/13/2008 7:14 AM  
Blogger Jeffri Harre said...

I nearly spit my coffee all over the computer screen watching this. Maybe you should post a warning ;)

Thank you, Lisa, it was a much needed laugh.


6/13/2008 8:28 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We laughed and laughed.

when Mel brooks was scolded for making fun of the Nazis in THE PRODUCERS, he pointed out that laughter and ridicule are one of the best defenses against prejudice and hatred.

I think he's right. Every time you hear one of the antis rail on against the EEEEvil homoSEKshuals, just think of this piece and laugh.


6/14/2008 12:02 PM  
Blogger Lisa Fox said...

Fran, let me just say here how very grateful I am to have you visiting. Yes, it's a miserable discussion we're having. But at least we're having it. ... And I appreciate your insights and perspectives. While you keep your home in the RC church, I'm happy to have you as an honorary Episcopalian.

Yes, Elizabeth: Wouldn't it be delightful if our Rowan would be this clear and honest?!

Jeffri: I'm glad you visited. I'll go up and add a "splort" warning.

IT: Yes, sometimes satire and humor are all we have left. And I treasure them.
BTW, how 'bout a "thank you"? Dear friend, it was simply on your account that I re-opened my miserable blog to all the trolls who post as "Anonymous." I did it for you. And now I have to go deal with all the anonymous trolls. I hope this helps you know how much I value your voice.

6/14/2008 9:37 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I DID thank you, over on notquiterevjph, but I gladly thank you again here. THANK YOU. And as I said over there, if it gets TOO annoying, just shut 'em down again and tell me to grow up and get a blogger account. :-)

My beloved is an RC. I'm not sure how she or Franiam manage to stay there, but some people have the fortitude to work for change within institutions, while others vote for change by leaving. Each individual has to figure out her tippingn point.

Now, I suspect my beloved may tip when Monsignor finds out were are getting married. we'll see. (Yes, wedding bells in October! Yay! we are very excited).


6/15/2008 3:46 PM  
Blogger Lisa Fox said...

IT, the only reason I keep this blog open to "Anonymous" postings is for you and NancyP. If you two would get Blogger IDs, I could make this a troll-free zone. But no pressure .... :-)

I truly value your comments.

Sounds like it might indeed get interesting when you and your beloved get married. Godspeed!

6/15/2008 4:49 PM  

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